Antw: Re: [Dini-ag-kim-bestandsdaten] Definition and scope of Holding
prante at hbz-nrw.de
Wed Apr 24 12:15:31 CEST 2013
In Germany, in the vascoda effort many years ago, we have designed a
collection level description CLD scheme:
I still remember the rejection of my suggestion to use RDF schema/OWL
in vascoda instead of ancient DC-AP technique :) but anyway...
Having Linked Data in mind, this document needs revision. But it also
shows the fact that collection level description is a moving target and
subject to local/regional library "best practice" behavior, and can not
be essential to define holdings. It should be sufficient to link a
single item entity to a collection description somewhere in the Semantic
Web if possible, and let others describe the nature of the collection.
I think what should be considered is the notion of "units" in an item
(copies or additional supplements, identified by a single item number)
and the "completeness" or physical state of an item (in german it's the
known as "Bindeeinheit": Einzelband, Teilband, Sammelband/Konvolut),
which is mentioned in MARC21 Holdings and Z39.71.
My 2 cents
>>> Owen Stephens <owen at ostephens.com> schrieb am 24.04.2013 um 11.31
Nachricht <AD61748A-A780-4055-A73D-35C425EC62A9 at ostephens.com>:
> Two of the definitions proposed on the wiki
> (https://wiki.dnb.de/display/DINIAGKIM/Definition+of+Holding) include
> concept that a 'holding' can describe not just a single
> a collection or group of resources/documents/items
> "Group of data elements describing one institution’s copies of a
> bibliographic resource or group of like or similar bibliographic
> Carsten: "A description of one agents inventory and access
information for a
> item or collection of items."
> This makes me wonder about the relation between Holdings and
> Level Descriptions. It might be worth looking at Gordon Dunsire's
work on CLD
> Use Case for the W3C LLD incubator
> Owen Stephens
> Owen Stephens Consulting
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> Email: owen at ostephens.com
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> On 24 Apr 2013, at 08:48, Philipp Zumstein
><philipp.zumstein at bib.uni-mannheim.de> wrote:
>> Hi *,
>> I see three different aspects for "holding":
>> 1) general holding information
>> 2) service portfolio
>> 3) current status
>> Examples for 1) are call number, location on a shelf, bill number,
> acquisition date, corresponding title, and "owner" of an item.
>> Examples for 2) are: on spot consultation, borrow for 3 weeks with
> extension, copy/scan service, inter-library loan. Moreover, most of
> services are restricted to some persons (e.g. students, faculty,
> and they may also be restricted to a time period (e.g. duration of an
> exposition, or PDF with DRM).
>> Examples for 3) are: available/not available, on the loan, stolen,
> the shelf, loan possible at the moment?.
>> It would be nice to model all three aspects. Also it might be a
> give up-to-date information for aspect 3). By the way, I think with
most of the
> "holding" definition are not perfect. For example with patron driven
> acquisition (PDA), you are not "holding" the items (you haven't
> ebooks yet), still you provide a service to your users. Another
example is a
> database, which you are not the owner of, but still you provide a
> your costumer (maybe for a limited time).
>> Best regards,
>> Am 22.04.2013 13:14, schrieb Klee, Carsten:
>>> Hi everyone!
>>> I would like to keep the discussion ongoing. Maybe we can discuss
> definition and scope of a holding al little bit more.
>>> Just a reminder: I created a wiki page  about the definition of
> holding. Till now there is still one definition from the ISO 20775,
> very a library definition.
>>> I would like to suggest another one, hoping this one is more
>>> Holding: A description of one agents inventory and access
information for a
> item or collection of items.
>>> I chose 'agent' because of foaf:Agent , which subsumes
> Group and Person. With 'inventory' I'm not sure, but the word
'holding' in a
> definition of 'holding' seems to be bad. Then I chose 'item' not
> Item relates to frbr:Item  but I'm not totally sure about this.
>>> Now about the scope of holding. Owen Stephens asked earlier if
> "[...] represent solely the ownership of things by a library (or
> organisation/person) or some other aspects (such as their current
> which could include 'on loan to person X')".
>>> I would like to suggest that we stick with the idea of
> Meaning: If possible and applicable move every complex aspect to
> ontology. And I think the information 'on loan to person X' is such
> aspect. But this is just my thought about this. As I said, maybe we
> to a discussion about it.
>>>  <https://wiki.dnb.de/display/DINIAGKIM/Definition+of+Holding>
>>>  <http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_Agent>
>>>  <http://vocab.org/frbr/core.html#Item>
>>> Carsten Klee
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