[Tp-legal] REMINDER: Nächste Sitzung der AG Legal am 22. Oktober

[Paweł Kamocki]

Dear Philippe, dear all,

After our meeting today, I suggest the following actions:

1. Regarding the publication of the deliverable: "Recht und Zugang" is
good, but I may have an alternative idea (not necessarily mutually
exclusive with "Recht und Zugang"). Darja Fiser, the director of CLARIN,
brought this call for papers to my attention:
https://ojs.letras.up.pt/index.php/LLLD/announcement/view/158. It was
advertised via the Corpora list and I suppose the special issue will
attract quite a large readership (or, shall I say, viewership) in the
community. The desired length (7000-8000 words) is almost exactly the
length of our deliverable (ca. 8500 with references). However, to be
interesting to a broader audience, the paper should include some
comparative law (perspectives from other national laws). I thought that
maybe some members of the CLARIN Legal Issues Committee could help us out,
and together we could turn this into a joint CLARIN/Text+ paper. What do
you think? Hopefully, the CLIC people could do most of the work required to
turn it into an acceptable submission for this call (which I assume is not
much anyway). The deadline is November 15, which is tight, but feasible (if
the task is simply adapting an existing paper).

2. Regarding our future work, I suggest we publish a short (no more than 1
page) statement on LLM training under the TDM exception, also to counteract
an opposing view which is gaining some traction in our community. Why just
a short statement and not a full deliverable? The area is evolving so fast
that if we take the next 6 months to prepare a deliverable, it will already
be outdated (e.g., the legal aspects of training data regurgitation only
started being seriously discussed this year -- next months will certainly
bring new subjects). We could hopefully finalise it by our next meeting in
November.
Our next deliverable, as suggested by Gianna and José (and supported by all
those present at the meeting) could be on the CARE principles (BTW, there
is an ELSA Working Group on CARE principles, too, which we could liaise
with).
We are more sceptical about the feasability of templates for data transfer
agreements, and for several reasons: 1) (some) institutions already have
their templates which they are not willing to abandon; 2) every data
transfer situation is different and aiming at a one-size-fits-all template
could oversimplify complex cases or over-complicate simple cases; 3) last
but not least, drafting a template is a purely legal task, and the strength
of our AG is in bringing together legal and technical skills. With that
said, we could adopt some guidelines (or checklists) for data transfers.

Please let me know what you think.

Kind regards,
Paweł

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 07:14, Genêt, Philippe <P.Genet at dnb.de> wrote:

> Liebe Kolleg*innen,
>
>
>
> die nächste Sitzung der AG Legal findet statt am kommenden *Dienstag, den
> 22. Oktober 2024, um 11 Uhr* in diesem Zoom-Raum:
> https://zoom.us/j/93357206007?pwd=SVVDNFFyTTJkYmp3cGlKeElTS3JqUT09
>
>
>
> Vermutlich wird bis dahin das Deliverable C2.3 (hier
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LOXBVQ5tTfGTdvkF3rk8abZgVd3DvfzPrbN8XEfkBYU/edit>)
> final sein. Dazu eine Info, weil Peter und ich nicht dabei sein können:
> Peter wollte Benjamin Raue ansprechen, ob das Deliverable in der „Recht und
> Zugang“ veröffentlicht werden kann. Diese Info würde ich gerne noch
> abwarten, bevor ich das Dokument woanders (Zenodo, z.B.) hochlade.
>
>
>
> Und zwei Anregungen:
>
> -      Auf dem Plenary waren LLMs das Schwerpunktthema – gibt es hier
> vielleicht Bedarf an rechtlicher/ethischer Unterstützung durch die AG
> Legal?
>
> -      Und wie steht es mit Datenübernahmevereinbarungen – wäre eine Art
> Mustervertrag für die Text+ Zentren sinnvoll/machbar?
>
>
>
> Ich wäre dankbar, wenn jemand die Ergebnisse der *Diskussion
> protokollieren* könnte!
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>
>
> Danke & Liebe Grüße
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
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Pawel Kamocki
Leibniz-Institut für Deutsche Sprache
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