[dini-ag-kim-identifier] Http-URIs for items

[Pascal Christoph]

Kai,

Am Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:04:45 +0200 schrieb eckert at bib.uni-mannheim.de :

> Hi list,
> 
> provided that you mean the manifestation with $resourceID, this would 

right

> not help in our case, as we have several identical items under the same 
> signature under the same bibliographic record, i.e., manifestation.
> 
> Example:
> 
> http://vs30.kobv.de/primo_library/libweb/action/display.do?doc=MAN_ALEPH001101864&scp.scps=&vid=MAN_UB
> 
> Click on "Standorte"/"Locations" and then "Lehrbuchsammlung".
> 
> Of course all these items are identical, but maybe you still would like 
> to distinguish them, if you want to identify and handle the real, 
> physical books.

we at hbz are aware of this problem. We donot know how to solve _that one_, though.

oo

> 
> Am 19.04.2012 16:42, schrieb Pascal Christoph:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> at KIM Workshop 12. April it was mentioned to maybe close
>> dini-ag-kim-identifier because of too low traffic. It was also discussed to
>> begin a discussion at dini-ag-kim-lld at maybe move a thread if its worth to
>> the more specialised list.
>>
>> (In my opinion this discussion list _may_ help us, so I give it a try )
>>
>> However...
>> At lobid.org we were wondering how to mint http-URIs for library items
>> (exemplars)[1] and come to the conclusion that "the following form would be the
>> best:
>>
>> http://lobid.org/item/$resourceID:$signature
>>
>> i.e.
>>
>> http://lobid.org/item/HT000494055:3E+6294
>>
>> because we discovered (example missing) that it may occur that one signature
>> denotes in fact multiple, different items , even if it is in one and the same
>> organisation. With the conjunction of resource ID and signature we avoid any
>> possible ambiguities."[2]
>>
>> This is really a minor thing because at least there will be only some 0.0..1%
>> of URIs affected, but then:
>>
>> 1. URIs should always identify one thing and
>> 2. they are arbitrary
>>
>> So why not use my suggested shape to be at the save side?
>>
>> Another thing:
>> I know that b3kat and Jakob Voss actually use URIs like this:
>> http://lod.b3kat.de/bib/<ISIL>/item/<Katalognummer>   [3]
>>
>> but then these are not URIs for an item but rather a URI for a whole lot of
>> items. How will you be able to i.e. say anything like "item A is lend, but item
>> B is available"? Or "item A is in a good condition, item B is in bad condition" ?
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> -o
>>
>> [1]https://wiki1.hbz-nrw.de/display/SEM/2012/02/10/lobid.org+news#lobid.orgnews-ItemURIschanged
>> [2]https://wiki1.hbz-nrw.de/display/SEM/2012/04/19https://wiki1.hbz-nrw.de/display/SEM/2012/04/19
>> [3]http://lod.b3kat.de/doc/update_2012-01-04.html
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